| Lewis & Clark: "frontmen for genocide" |
| Read on for an interesting e-mail interview between Jim Craven and a Time Magazine
Correspondent (who will remain unnamed): **** hello, i am a writer for time magazine working on a story on native american attitudes
toward the lewis and clark commemoration. would you have a few moments to email me
your current thoughts? i saw a few clips from the oregonian and the columbian dating back
2 years, where you discussed lewis and clark as "frontmen for genocide."
am also confused about what's happening vis a vis the commemoration with the Blackfeet
generally. There is a reference on the official lewis and clark website to some sort
of "day of reconciliation" planned by the tribe, along with a performance of an
opera about Scarface. i am writing this week. **** Jim Craven < mail@timemagazine.com <mailto:mail@timemagazine.com> > **** 1) why do you consider lewis and clark to be "front men for genocide"? As long as the lies and revisionist histories continue there can be no real Justice,
Healing, Reconciliation or Prevention of Future Abuses and any purported
"Reconciliation Ceremonies" around Lewis and Clark will be phony and will be
labeled/attacked as such along with those sell-out Indians who dare to hold them in
service to their white or nominally Indian masters. Added: |
| Terrorism |
| For the Campus Community: Among the "campus-wide abilities" to be integrated into curricula, the need for some "global/multicultural awareness" has been given some support by some recent examples. For example, the present military buildup, originally called "Operation Infinite Justice", has been changed to "Operation Enduring Freedom." Why? Well it seems that with all of these massive expenditures on arms and forging alliances with "moderate" Muslim theocracies/states, no one bothered to consult someone familiar with the Koran and aspects of Arab/Muslim cultures who might have informed them that in the Koran, as in the New Testament Bible and Torah--and indeed sacred books of many religions--"infinite justice" is reserved for Allah, God, Creator, etc and it is considered blasphemy (not only in Islam) to presume to undertake and dispense that which is reserved for Allah. Indeed there are as many perspectives on the recent terrorism as forms and ways of manifesting grief and concern. The night before last I was called by a Blackfoot Elder on Tribal issues. She said to me the following (I took notes as the conversation became quite striking). "So many Americans are now ready to take some forms of terrorism seriously, depending upon who is doing the terrorism and who is the object of it, but we, in Indian Country have known only terrorism and attempts to exterminate us since before the founding of this Republic." She said, "Biological warfare?; We know all about it; what do you call it when blankets of smallpox victims were gathered specifically to be used in trading with Indians and epidemics were deliberately started and even the head of the BIA has openly admitted that that was done on a mass scale--only to Indians--throughout American history?" She said, "Chemical warfare?, We know all about it; what do you call it when Indian Reservations are targeted as toxic-waste dump sites, when 72 out of 73 designated toxic-waste dump sites are Indian reservations and the toxic water and soil are causing damaged kids and many early deaths?". She said, "Terrorism? we know all about it, what do you call it when the government installs, maintains and protects massive Tribal corruption and those who do it (corrupt "hang-around-the-fort" Indians who sell-out cheap and do the bidding of the "Man") resulting in losses of lives, precious resources and our culture?". "What do you call it when a government has programs that forces sterilization on thousands of unknowing Native women and organizes the stealing of Indian babies from their homes for adoption into white families?" She said that her daughters work in a rental car place and the FBI had recently been by to check on a rental that had racked-up over 6,000 miles in a short period, but she noted that repeated pleas by traditional activists, over many years, for the Federal Government to stop supporting Tribal corruption and to help solve the murders of activists and others had fallen over deaf ears. She said that she wished no ill on anyone, even those who have damaged Indians, but that she felt that soon "a whole lot of non-Indians are going to get a small taste of what it is like to be Indian and live on a Reservation in America." She said "we already know a lot about obscene gas prices, inferior food at obscene prices, electricity shut-downs, toxic water and soils, gouging in the name of profit, national ID cards, losses of civil liberties available to others, ethnic profiling", etc. She thought that in the end, maybe Indians will be the lucky ones in terms of not suffering the shock of losing that which is customary and upon which one has become reliant in the sense that Indians have never had access to much of what others take for granted and will freak out upon losing. However one feels about the various perspectives on recent issues, attached is the perspective on some current issues of Ward Churchill, a Professor of Native and Ethnic Studies at the University of Colorado (Boulder), who is the author of many influential and highly-regarded books on Native issues. For those highly offended, perhaps they can consider that perhaps their own views are equally offensive to others and that the campus-wide abilities are supposed to teach and reinforce and explore various kinds and forms of diversity and respect for the right to hold and present diverse opinions even if one has no respect for the particular opinions themselves. |
| Residential SchoolsThe Past is Present |
| Radio program w/James Craven on The United Church May 2000 TAPE 1 transcription -
introduction
Most genocides in this century have been perpetuated by nation states upon ethnic minorities living within the states own borders. Most of the victims have been children. The people responsible for mass murder have by and large gotten away with what they have done. Most have succeeded in keeping the wealth that theyve looted from their victims. Most have never faced trial. Genocide is still difficult to eradicate because it is usually tolerated, at least by those who benefit from it. Pierre Laboisser introResidential schools operated in Canada from around 1870 to the early 1980s. The children of First Nations groups were removed by law from their homes and families and forced to attend schools operated by non-Indians. The government contracted out the running of the schools to the churches. Although not all Indian children went to these schools, or went for the full 12 years, residential schooling was a part of the Indian experience affecting everyone in the communities. Residential schools were part and parcel of the federal governments policy towards native people. The eradication of a people facilitates the theft of occupied land. This can be done using various methods, and the residential school is one of them. And this has clearly been the agenda of the Canadian government. These methods have been understood by many countries who have bloodied their hands in colonialism, using residential schools to destroy a people, such as their implementation in the Soviet Union, the USA, Australia, Japan and India. It is also defined, within the UN Convention on Genocide, as being a violation against humanity. Residential schools do not stand alone as an aberration out of context with the development of Canada. They are but one tactic in the process of the colonization of the Americas which has been and still is, genocidal. JC: We went up there to the United Church, and we had the understanding that we were invited as observers. We checked in, so it was all up front, we werent sneaking in on anybody, we announced who we were. We had some literature with us, and initially no one told us we couldnt pass out literature. We went in, looking to set up a booth, because we didnt want to invade peoples privacy, force literature on people. What we wanted was a table so people could come up on their own and pick up the literature, or not, rather than our approaching people. We tried to be respectful in every way, and what happened was some of the clergy and other volunteers approached us and said that we could stay there as observers but not pass anything out. We asked why, because those same clergy had been at our conference in St. Thomas and were welcomed, and they were perfectly free to pass out whatever they wanted to pass out and say what they wanted to say. We thought we would have the same arrangement, and if people dont like what youre saying they will rebut it. We were told, no, because some of the parishioners who were there were just starting to understand about the residential schools and they really werent prepared for a lot of detail on it. Our pamphlet, by the way, includes a copy of the full text of the UN Convention on Genocide, so that when we use the word genocide people can see exactly what it means. What they said was that our pamphlet was in error because it includes the 1986 apology and a critique of it, but, there has subsequently been a 1998 apology. Well start by reading out the 1986 apology, and Ill make brief commentaries in specific aspects of it as we proceed. Apology given by the UC of Canada (1986) Long before my people journeyed to this land, your people were here and you received from your elders an understanding of creation and of the mystery that surrounds us all that was deep and rich and to be treasured. We did not hear you when you shared your vision JC: First of all, they didnt allow native children to even speak. It wasnt a question of merely not hearing. Native children were never allowed to give their vision. They were disabused of it from the get-go. in our zeal to tell you the good news of Jesus Christ, we were blind to the value of your spirituality That part is at least admitting that the residential schools were about more then spreading the gospel. Its about forced assimilation. And that part does suggest that there were motives other than just spreading the gospel. We tried to make you like us? No. They have never accepted Indian people, even assimilated ones, as like them. What they wanted to make them was non-Indians, but never whites. Assimilated Indians will always be Indians first, but they will never have the status of the whites. We who represent the UC of Canada ask you to forgive us and to walk together in the spirit of Christ so that our people may be blessed and Gods creation healed. . .In 1986 The UC of Canada issued an apology to native congregations in respect to the operation of residential schools. The UC of Canada recognizes that Church-run residential schools was one of the primary contributors to the destruction of Indian culture, spirituality and language. Here they dont mention that that [ the destruction of Indian culture, spirituality and language] was the intention. The implication is that was an effect. But it was the intention, the clear-stated intention in their own documents. In the 1990s, the UC of Canada has undertaken a number of initiatives to build a new relationship between native and nonnative members and between the Church and other aboriginal people. The UC of Canada states we are committing ourselves anew to finding a good way. Again, as we discussed with the Moderator today, you remember that the Moderator said they have a problem using the word genocide because some people are just leery of that word, theyre uncomfortable, it freaks them out, and we included in this pamphlet the actual UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide so that rather than being accused of talking rhetoric people could read the actual law itself, and what exactly constitutes genocide, and its in Article 2: A. Killing members of the group. Has that been done to Indians in North America? Absolutely. B. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group. Was that done at the residential schools? Yes, gang rapes, feeding people maggot-infested food, sterilizing children, murdering children, secret graveyards, using them for medical experimentation, putting needles through various parts of their bodies, forcing them to perform public sex acts for voyeuristic Church officials and it goes on and on and on. I think all those would qualify as serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group. C. Deliberately inflicting upon the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part. Was that done? Yes, the evidence is unequivocal. D. Imposing measure intended to prevent births within the group. Yes, native children, both male and female, routinely have been sterilized in both Canada and the United States. Many times it was done without their knowledge, like saying you got a gynecological problem, or in some cases it was coerced, actually forced. E. Forcibly transferring children of one group to another group. Was that done? You bet. Thats what the residential schools were all about. In law, any of those five, any of them, not all, constitutes genocide under the law. And we pointed that out. I also asked the Moderator if he had read the 1948 UN Convention on Genocide, and he said it has been some time ago. So this is the apology given in 1986. It says nothing about the residential schools being subcontractors in genocide. It says nothing about the various intentions, and these are revealed in their own documents, of not just to spread the gospel of Jesus, but intentions in terms of grabbing land, creating cheap labor pools, forcible assimilation, breaking treaties, destroying whole tribes and whole cultures by destroying their Indianness; and even destroying them physically. We pointed that out to the Moderator. When he asked the question how do we move forward, we discussed the mandates of aboriginal law, which are: truth first; then justice; then healing; then reconciliation,; then prevention of future abuse. I said we cant move forward without the truth. We cant move forward with half-truths, pseudo-truths. Theres no reason to proceed if we continue those lies. And one of those lies is not to use the word genocide. I asked him if anyone would have a problem if I used the word genocide in connection with what the Nazis did to Jews, Gypsies, and so on. Would anyone consider it rhetoric?; would it make them queasy or nervous? He said no. PL: Just a comment: not calling genocide genocide is covering up the reality and changes the implications of what happened. JC: Here they say in their apology we did not hear you. Not true, because children were not allowed to speak. They were beaten whenever they did anything Indian. When children said their prayers in their native language they were beaten and tortured. When a child wore her hair long, the hair was cut. When a child wore traditional ornaments and regalia, he or she was beaten and then mocked and tormented. Saying you said it to us but we didnt hear you No. They were never allowed to be Indian from the first day of residential school. Just like boot camp in the military. From the first day youre told youre not an Indian here. Get ready for it. Dont speak your language. So here theyre saying we have so much respect for you native people, were sorry we didnt listen to you. Well, when you dont call genocide genocide, you desecrate the memory, desecrate the pain and desecrate the suffering of all of those who suffered in that system. Better you dont apologize--just say go to hell--than a phony apology that is designed to mitigate your damages in any litigation and mitigate your cognitive dissonance problems, and cover up what that system was about. That system wasnt about Jesus Christ. Theres nowhere in the bible that sanctions what went on in that residential school. Nothing that sanctions gang rape and torture, sterilization, using children for medical experiments, secret graveyards, forcing children to eat their own vomit, putting glue in their nose, cutting their hair. Ive read the gospel a fair amount and I find nothing that went on the Residential Schools that is remotely connected to Jesus Christ. To suggest that their motives were missionary zeal is a cover-up; their motives were economic, political, cultural. Their motives were genocide. They were subcontractors in genocide. The Canadian government shares responsibility and its not enough to say, well, the Catholics did it too, Mormans did it to, Lutherans, Presbyterians. Thats not going to wash for whoever did it. Its not up to the United Church to point to the other Churches. Its up to the UC to point to themselves and do what they ask every one of their parishioners to do: properly atone, make it right, and stop it and make the damages right. Because people who suffered, theyre paying their medical bills, for their drugs, theyre paying in many ways, some of which are financial. Meanwhile these people are flying all over the place, have big salaries, have big homes and so on. This isnt going to go away. They want to jump right to reconciliation without healing; they want to jump to healing without justice and truth. In an aboriginal court, the mandates form a sacred hoop; without truth, nothing else follows. Without truth there can be no justice; without truth and justice there can be no healing; without truth, justice and healing, there can be no reconciliation; and without truth, justice, healing and reconciliation, there can be no prevention of future abuses. And without all of that, there can be no climate to further the search of truth; and so it forms from truth to truth, the sacred hoop. Truth is the center, the core, the foundation. This apology has nothing to do with the truth. This is an evasion, dissembling, obfuscation. But worse: by putting some flowery language in here, some ersatz Indian language long before my people journeyed to this land, your people were here, you received from your elders Its ersatz Indian talk. How. Me Tonto. Its Great Spirit talk. Its a caricature and its insulting, demeaning, patronizing, and it wont wash. PL: Heres the new apology:
Lets start with the first paragraph: From the deepest reaches of your memories, you have shared with us your stories of suffering from our Churchs involvement in the operation on Indian residential schools. You have shared the personal and historic pain that you still bear and you have been vulnerable yet again. You have also shared with us your strength and wisdom born of the life-giving dignity of your communities and traditions and your stories of survival. JC: When exactly have residential school victims, other than in court, been allowed to share their stories? Every time the residential school victims tried to share their stories, they were called crazy, they were marginalized, demonized and slandered. The churches used various obstructionist and legal tactics designed to bankrupt the victims so they could never get to court. In some cases people who protested or tried to tell the story were murdered; in some cases they lost their tribal connections. For instance, even when we had the Tribunal in Vancouver, we had witnesses intimidated there, one of whom was doing it was indeed on the UC payroll and I personally witnessed that individual intimidating witnesses at the Tribunal. So every time the victims have tried to tell the story with specifics, they have been obstructed. We need specifics, not for salacious detail, but we need to know because these are crimes, crimes that people need to be brought to the bar of justice. We cant bring them to the bar of justice when the Church continues to seal its archives, when they continue to refuse to get into the specifics, and when they try to get sealed settlements, for example, so the specifics wont come out in court, when they fight it in court, rather than simply stipulating known and proved truths. So when they said you shared it, its not because of what the Church has done. Its actually tried to obstruct residential school victims being able to give specifics and names. In fact, the perpetrators of these crimes, when they were brought to the bar of justice in the few cases, many times got off on technicalities, because the victims werent assisted in discovery. So that part there may sound nice but the reality is that only very recently and only with considerable effort have the victims been able to give some of the specifics of what happened to them, and certainly without any help from the Church. You remember, I gave the document to Rev.
Phipps which had his name on it where he had been asked to come to an inter-Tribal
Tribunal, and he didnt attend? That could mean that he was busy, but he didnt
even bother to respond. I gave him a list of all those people from the UC who were asked
to be at that tribunal to assist in the discovery process so that people wouldn'tt
have to testify and drag out these demons and suffer more trauma and damage. It has been
through no help of the Catholic Church, or the UC or any other churches. We asked them to
help uncover the story so that the true story could be told and we could help find out who
did what and in some cases bring people to the bar of justice, but without having to make
some of the victims bring out the demons and the trauma and having to relive what they had
gone through. It would be much easier if they would use their offices to help because they
have the archives, the documents, that would help us find out who did what and when. We
never got assistance. PL: As Moderator of the UC of Canada, I wish to speak the words that many people have wanted to hear for a very long time. On behalf of the UC of Canada, I apologize for the pain and suffering that our Churchs involvement in the Indian residential school system has caused. We are aware of some of the damage that this cruel and ill-conceived system of assimilation has perpetuated on Canadas First Nations people. For this we are truly and most humbly sorry. JC: Well, in one way thats a step forward, and its a step forward in the sense that its not suggesting that what went wrong was how the schools were run, but the problem is in the schools themselves. Its suggesting that the whole system itself, from its foundations upward, was corrupt and rotten. But again, where did that system come from? Why did that system come about? What was behind it? Was it just psychological aberrations? People just had it in for Indians, is that it? Or thought that Indians would just be better off looking white or acting white? There are concrete material, political, economic, social, cultural, systemic interests behind genocide anywhere it occurs. Genocide doesnt happen just because one group has a thing for another group. Thats the rationale sometimes. But always behind genocide you find land, resources, markets, interests, profit, power, power projection, imperial conquest, moving somebody out in order to move somebody else in. And so when he said ill-conceived system, OK, but why? Where did that system come from and why was it ill-conceived? Ill-conceived by whom and for what purpose. Did they just have a bad day? Just got it wrong? So in one sense it goes a little bit further because some people suggest that it wasnt the schools themselves that were wrong, but how they were run. But the reality is that any time you try to force your religion on other people its wrong. You got no right to take children and beat Jesus into them; or rather your sick, twisted notion of Jesus into them You have no right to declare their culture and spirituality inferior and backward and pagan, and declare your own religion and gospel to be THE TRUTH, THE LIGHT, and anyone who doesnt accept it does so at the pain of going to hell but more the pain of being beaten or murdered, raped. So the whole notion of missionary zeal itself assumes this. What right do you have to take your private business and push it on other people, in their faces? Who gave you that right? Whats behind that ill-conceived evil system? Theres no discussion of that, and there again avoidance of the word genocide; and it was a genocidal system. Its intent all five specifics of Article 2 of the UN Convention on Genocide, were the intent of that system; it happened to too many people. What few of their documents that survive, that they havent destroyed, say that clearly; its not just about spreading the good word. TAPE 2: RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS: The Past is PresentW/Roland Chrisjohn & Jim Craven We said, we want you to consider another set of issues that you havent been considering. We invited the UC to come to our conference and it was open to the public, well advertised as best we could, with the idea that as long as issues of the immorality of what a moral institution did, what the Churches did, as long as thats not on the table, then none of these considerations that the gov or any of the churches are undergoing about what to do about the residential schools is actually addressing the real issue and we want them to get on board with that. JC: Heres a parallel: suppose I recklessly go out and get drunk and stoned, run a bunch of red lights, and I cause you serious damage. Youre in the hospital with long term medical bills bankrupting you. I turn around and while Im driving my Mazarrati, I declare bankruptcy to avoid liability. So your medical bills go on, I tell you Im sorry but Im broke, meanwhile I continue to drive my car and live in my big home, telling you all the time, gee, Im really sorry about that, I hope you really believe that Im genuinely sorry about that. Well, thats precisely what they did. You were at the conference today, you saw some people spontaneously tell about the pain theyre suffering, and theyre suffering real damages, real costs, from real pain and hardship that they endured in those churches. One of them we heard today was a victim of Port Alberni of the United Church. Her medical bills are ongoing and directly trace back to trauma she suffered in Port Alberni. She wound up in an emergency ward because of a mess-up. And yet they propose to say theyre sorry and restructure so they dont have to pay victims like her for the ongoing medical liabilities and pain theyre suffering that cost money. Shrinks and lawyers dont work for free. Drugs are not free, even in Canada. So knowing the shameless hypocrisy of these people in not making a genuine atonement as they tell their parishioners they should do, the shameless hypocrisy of restructuring in order to avoid liability and payments and financial obligations that will then be borne by those victims one more time, the victims not only bear the pain and suffering, they bear the financial responsibilities, as the churches continue to build big churches, continue to pay huge salaries to some of the parasites that run these organizations, and meanwhile their victims are left, often poor and indigent, with mounting bills while the church escapes any liability for them. RC: I would like to interject that we should say, their potential attempt to do that because again, we really dont know what the UC really wants to do and Im stupid enough to believe that the tactics that any of the churches have adopted havent been as a result of the church membership as a whole deciding that, hey, we better cover our ass on this, I think its been an institutional decision to subtract morality out of the decision making process. And my real hope is that an institution that poses as a moral institution will actually begin to use moral bases in order to come to grips with the past and the present. JC: Thats right. Either that or just give up the act altogether. Give up your act and stop preaching to people. Either walk your talk or get out of the business and stop your shameless hypocrisy. I agree with Roland, its not the average parishioners who are doing this, but the people with the big salaries and cars who take the big trips to exotic places who are doing this stuff. Its clear in their restructuring that theres an intent to limit liability or exposure. If nobody wants to see them bankrupt, the first concern should be responsibility for these actions. Maybe they have to sell their Mazarratis, sell their big houses and move into an apartment ; better that than the persons damaged should have to suffer from damage caused from negligence, foreseeable consequences of actions and something people protested against at the time. Its not that weve suddenly come to a new realization that what was done was wrong. We knew it then that it was wrong, and the evidence for that is that all of the residential schools of Canada were in out-of-the-way places. If you look at a map, theyre all on islands and tucked away in these out-of-the-way places, partly to remove them from people and brainwash them better, partly to prevent them from escaping, but partly to prevent those schools from being exposed. If you look at Part Alberni, and Alert Bay, the rest of them, theyre all in out-of-the-way places. They knew what they were doing was wrong; no need to hide whats clean, only whats dirty, and they were hiding what was dirty, and they new it was dirty at the time, because they never allowed their precious white children to be put in those schools. Those schools were for Indian children, not white children. Narrator: Unfortunately were running out of time. It feels like we just started to get into some of this. Any closing comments? RC: Just that again theres still an opportunity for Canadians in general, the government and churches, to do the right thing. If I didnt think there was that possibility, I would have shut up about it a long time ago. What Ive tried to say to the churches overall is that if you think your getting away with genocide you might be getting away with it on this level, but if you really believe what it is that youve been shoving down everybodys throats all these years, theres still somebody else that youre going to have to account to for this, and youre not going to get away with that. JC: Get right, walk your talk, get right with the creator, do the right thing, or else come out with what you are and stop lecturing other people about human rights. If you dont get it together, you have no right to lecture anybody about anything. |
| Economics and Politics |
INTERVIEW WBAI 2/15/98 (Doug Henwood and Jim Craven) DH: There was a court decision in Canada last December in British Columbia where the Canadian court decided that Indian claims to property in BC were actually well grounded and that this may have a substantial effect in Canada about who owns what. A lot of these disputed lands are rich in resources, so this is not mere matter of landscape, its also a matter of big money. Jim, before we get going, just a word on nomenclature. Ive been saying American Indians all along, and I know a lot of folks prefer Native Americans, or the Canadians use First Nations, whats the word on language here? JC: Theres a mixed bag on that. Most of the people that I know use the term American Indian. What they mean by that is an Indian of the Americas. The reason why many will use that is first of all, Indians werent even American citizens until 1924. Many Indians also feel that theyre not real Americans, theres no real place for them in America, and they are sovereign nations within a nation. They prefer the term Indian rather than the term Native American. Also many Indians I know dont like the nativism thats associated with that term Native American, and there may be some implication that the further back here your ancestors go, the more real American you are; and most Indians that I know dont share that kind of sentiment. They dont differentiate people by how far back your ancestors go. The actual word Indian didnt come from Columbus looking for India and missing the boat. Rather, when he came here there was no India. The Indian comes from the term la gente en dio the people in god. Theyre also referred to as Los Indios. Columbus called them gentle and loving people and thought they would be easy to turn into slaves, which is what he actually wrote in his diary. Most of the people I know prefer to use the term American Indian, but they dont mean an equivalent to Irish-American or Jewish American, they mean an Indian of the Americas, which includes Central, South American and Canada. DH: Now lets talk about this decision from the Canadian Supreme Court. Whats involved with this decision thats relevant to the US? JC: First of all, the decision didnt go as far as some people might think in terms of of really laying out full use, full custody, for indigenous lands. But it was an extremely important decision in the sense that it was a recognition that some of the very same rights and privileges and laws that protect property today in white society, call into question the very property they protect. For instance, suppose you find all around you your relatives and neighbors being slaughtered and the people who are doing the killing send a message that youre next. You flee for you life, leave your home. Somebody moves into your home and destroys all records, histories, whatever that show you occupied that home. Then they proceed to go ahead and sell your home to someone else who had no idea how it was acquired. The new owner holds that property only as long as the true story isnt told. As soon as the true story is told about how that property was originally acquired, even under mainstream or capitalist law, that property becomes tainted. The new owner doesnt get to keep it, even though he innocently bought stolen property. The same thing holds here. More and more the courts are realizing that when the true story is told and it becomes evident that so much Indian land was stolen, and by stolen I dont mean according to Indian law, I mean according to white law, capitalist law. What happened with the Canadian decision was that for the first time or almost the first time they are starting to admit oral histories and historical place names as a basis for establishing original occupancy. What happened historically was that American society was confronted more and more with this contradiction, and this contradiction was by virtue or your own laws, not Indian laws, this is stolen land; ill-gotten land. So the answer to that was, first of all, you know Indians never really had a concept of private property or territory; therefore, in Indian terms, nothing was really stolen from them. That was the first myth. The second myth was, well, Indians never continuously occupied territorial lands, or Indians never made improvements on the land; therefore, they dont hold ownership in the way that we establish legitimate ownership. So there were attempts to rewrite history to get around that contradiction, that being by virtue of capitalist law, that property is stolen property. Now whats happening is that the courts, right now theres a case going on whereby thousands of non-Indians are being sued by the federal government on behalf of the Cherokee, Chocktaw and Chickesaw nations having to do with the Arkansas River because it turns out that as a result of a 1970 Supreme Court decision, that land was treaty land and it was illegally sold to non-Indians. So now these mineral and land owners are all being served notices that they dont hold title they once thought they held. So what were seeing now is a recognition that either youre going to have to come out in an open, naked say and say, yes, we have sacred laws but theyre only situationally applied; theyre not really that sacred. If youre non-white they dont apply. If youre not American they dont apply. Or theyre going to have to make some kind of attempt to apply consistency. DH: This speaks to what Marx calls primitive accumulation, which is the origin of private property through act of theft or in claiming private land that was previously held in common. So whether were looking at the enclosures in England or the theft of native lands here in North America or in whats going on in a good bit of the Third World today, the capitalists have not really lost much sleep over the contradictions of their own tradition. Do you think this is actually going to give them pause? Force them to come to terms with their own hypocrisy? JC: I think that the extent to which this happens is as much is as necessary. Their primary goal is to maintain the system as it is and the basic power structures as they are. But they do make concessions when contradictions require it. Their policies represent very few of ultra rich, but they need a mass social base, especially when you have the illusion of a democracy, participatory democracy, they need a mass social base to ratify policies which are actually in the interests of a very few ultra rich people. How do you do that? One way is to push hot button issues, like abortion and whatever. They try to get people to vote one way or another on single issues for a party that can never represent the interests of those who are actually voting for that party. Thats one way. The second way is of course through mystification and rewriting history: American the most moral, decent, productive, efficient, richest, beacon of democracy, and so on. Of course then they dont discuss all the ugly dictators weve supported and are supporting cause theres a contradiction there. The other way they deal with it is to make concessions on an ad hoc situational basis. So when those contradictions surface, become really glaring, naked, they will make such concessions as are necessary to keep the façade going. So they say, yeah, you got me, you got me there. According to my own laws, this is stolen property, youre right. So theyll return bits of land, piece by piece. Of course usually what happens is that land returned bit by bit, they just find another way to get it. What youll see is big developers who come in and front certain interests in the tribal councils, and they wind up getting the land back through normal commerce, or theyll find ways to counter-litigate and tie people up in court for extensive periods of time through expensive, costly litigation. But still theyre caught in that contradiction between the façade of the system and the façade they need to maintain that system vs. how the system really works and for whom it really works. Its quite clear: out of 22 industrialized countries, the US is No. 1 in wealth and income Inequality. Were number one in infants born at low birth weight; homicides; substance abuse; executions; imprisonment. Were number one in a whole bunch of indicators that dont speak very well for us. Those indicators are an indictment of that very system itself. The average life expectancy for most Indian males is between 49 and 52 years old. For Indian females, 47 and 51 years old. Thats as opposed to a white male around 71 and white female around 73. DH: Those life expectancies are really about the bottom of the poorest portion of the Third World. Were talking about some pretty bad social rankings here. JC: Thats correct. The infant mortality rate is much lower in Cuba than it is among Indians in North America. In fact, its lower than all of America combined. DH: Lets talk about the social-economic conditions that Indians in America live in. I think people who live in urban areas might not think about it very often. Where do folks live, just how bad off are they? JC: It will vary, of course. But for the vast majority of reservations in this country, and Ive been on many, people are isolated, its very stark, almost all the businesses are owned by non-Indians. Typically you get about 12 or 15 cents on the Indian dollar that stays on the reservation, the rest is shipped out in banking and other services. Savings are little, and what little savings that occur dont stay on the reservation, taken to big banks in the big cities, its never reinvested on the reservation. You have tribal councils that sometimes are corrupt and sometimes not. You have big developers with extensive agendas with their eyes on the prize, with various ways of identifying the mineral rich land and moving in to get it 10 cents on the dollar. You have very few children graduating from high school not to mention going to college and graduating. You have one Indian Health clinic overworked and understaffed. You have high incidences of tuberculosis, incidences of AIDS because of kids going to urban areas and becoming involved in prostitution and drugs and returning with AIDS. So the clinics are overstretched in terms of demands and ability to meet those demands. You have high incidences of alcoholism and drug addiction, about 5 times the national average, teenage suicide roughly five times the national average. People say then, well what about the casinos? The best studies Ive seen suggest that out of each casino gross profit dollar about 18 cents actually goes to the tribe because youre taking out consulting, licensing fees. So only about 18 cents stays with the tribe and of that a large amount is taken off by the powers that be in the tribe, so that maybe 5 cents of a casino dollar comes anywhere near the average Indian on an average reservation. So casinos are not the panacea that everyone talks about. Plus you lose part of the heritage and culture when you enter that type of enterprise. Its a very sad, stark existence. Its an indictment. People talk about genocide on Bosnia, and we should definitely be concerned about that because were all human beings, were all part of this planet. Its interesting by the way that in the Inuit language therere 103 words for snow, but only one for people: which is Inuit (human being) Theres no word for black people, white people, red people, theres just one word: human being. And so we should be concerned about Rwanda and Bosnia, but theres genocide going on right here in America, and as long as it keeps going on its an indictment of this country. For those who say why should I care, Im not Indian, the issue is that the best form of national security is having a society thats worth being secure. DH: How does the situation of American Indians compare with that of other indigenous peoples around the world, say in Australia or Canada or New Zealand? JC: Well, from what Ive been able to see, the situation in New Zealand and Australia with respect to aboriginal people is actually somewhat better than the US in terms of available services, recognition of aboriginal rights its not a rosy picture, theres still very brutal exploitation there--but there is more recognition that when this kind of subjugation and genocide is going on inside your borders its an indictment of the whole nation. In terms of services and national sovereignty, in Canada, in my opinion, its much better than the US, although again if you go to Saskatchewan and Alberta and whatever, its still a very stark existence on Indian reserves. I worked on a Cree reserve and conditions then and now still are pretty raw. But I would say that theyre better than here in the US. The US is way behind in terms of addressing not only land issues but issues of national sovereignty and whats happening. If something isnt done now I suspect that there wont be any Indian people left in three generations. Narrator: Because of their death or because they will blend into the surrounding society? JC: All of it: death, blending, all of it. Part of it has to do with the redefinition of Indian people by non-Indians. This is a serious issue. The other thing is the powerlessness. Just imagine if you had a football team called the New York Niggers. Or the Kansas City Kikes. Or the San Francisco Spiks. Imagine that they have the watermelon shuffle. Some caricature of a black person coming out and shuffling around. There would be an absolute outrage and rightly so, because thats really ugly stuff. But nobody thinks even twice about the Washington Redskins, the tomahawk chop Kansas City Chiefs, the Cleveland Indians with the buck-tooth, illiterate looking Indian icon. Weve seen so much sensitivity, and rightly so, to injustices that have been done to blacks, Jews, Hispanic people, and we should, but when it comes to Indians, we see all sorts of stereotypes and caricatures that no one would dare make with respect to any other group, and part of it comes from the fact that we have no national Indian voice or leadership, but part of it is the whole history that well, theyre dying anyway, they have no power anyway, theyre off on their own anyway, so just let them go. DH: You say there is no national Indian movement, virtually one publication of any significance. Why is there this lack of cohesion, lack of voice? JC: Well, a lot of it has to do with the divide and rule tactics that have been used against Indian people for hundreds of years, where they would separate tribes and where there were some territorial disputes, and not even disputes really, disputes were created. A good example is the Hopi and Navaho. The Hopi and Navaho have been inter-marrying for generations. But because there is some uranium and coal some land disputes were started. The Paiute and Navaho are another example where the powerful, mostly for economic interests, played one off against the other. These divisions continue to this day. Just imagine: we dont have, for example, a Bureau of African American Affairs, of Polish Affairs. But we have a Bureau of Indian Affairs. What do they do? Right now, for example, theres close to $3 billion missing in BIA accounts. Missing! Nobody knows where it went. And the records were all torched, they werent even put on computer backup. Weve got another case where, because Indian royalties were undervalued by oil and mineral interests according to the formula they were using, almost $6 billion of royalties due tribes being ripped off by undervaluation of oil and gas royalties. The BIA also has been caught, for example, fronting for developers, identifying mineral rich lands and then aiding developers in getting some of the land at 10 cents on the dollar. The BIA should be abolished; theyve done far more harm than good. Their argument is that now, for example, to recover your money youve got to stick with us because otherwise you have no chance of getting the tribal monies that are missing almost $3 billion dollars missing. But the BIA is a custodial agency, a broker on Indian issues. It was formed to take care of internal colonies its part of the Department of Interior and says, we cant trust you Indians to deal with non-Indians directly. So if non-Indians want to deal with Indians they have to go through the BIA. There are some exceptions to that, but not many. Its a gatekeeper between various nations and non-Indian people and other interests. Again, we get to the same problem. Can you imagine if we had a Bureau of African American Affairs, or Bureau of Caucasian Affairs? There would be an outrage if there was something like that, but nobody says anything when it comes to Indians. DH: What might a more humane set of policies look like? JC: I can only speak for myself, but basically it comes down to the fact that there needs to be more coherent and cohesive outreach to non-Indians. Indians alone are not going to be able to solve these problems. They need natural allies. Part of the problem is to break down a lot of the stereotypes and myths, you know, about the rich Indian from casino money, and so on, among non-Indians. Indians need to work with working class people and progressive intellectuals and whatever, to say, these are the myths youve been told about us. We dont think youre the enemy, because your skin color is different. Please join us because our fight is your fight. You know, there was a time in Germany when people said, well, Im not Jewish, or homosexual, or trade unionists and therefore this isnt my problem. What happened is they were living in a Nazi society where it was only a matter of time that anyone with a heart or an IQ over 60 could be next. Its the same thing about Indians in America. If you dont care about Indian issues, well go ahead and say that now, because you may be next, because it means you live in the kind of society that allows genocide, that allows this kind of desecration of the sacred, if you want to put it that way. And its only a matter of accident as to whether or not youre next. So we need to reach out, we need to build united fronts, common concerns, break down stereotypes, and need to educate. We need to say, listen this is all of us, we need to stay together. We dont want to take your land, please dont steal ours. By virtue of the very same principles that you hold sacred that defends your property, then please understand that our lands, our rights, our birthrights, our cultures and heritages have been stolen from us and we need to define ourselves, we dont need non-Indians defining what is authentic Indian and what is not. |
| Investigation of crimes of genocide in Canada |
WBAI
Interview: 6/18/98 (Doug Henwood and Jim
Craven) Narrator: Tell us about this panel youve been serving on investigating crimes of genocide in Canada. JC: This was an inter-Tribal court made up of tribal judges from different tribes and nations. It was sponsored by the International Human Rights Association of American Minorities which is a consultative body of the UN. It was a UN-NGO-observed tribunal. Any comments I make here are personal, not official findings as these findings have not been made public yet. The tribunal was conducted under the rules of tribal law. The director of IHRAAM was present, and it had to do with allegations of systematic and various forms of abuse of Indian children in the residential school system. It also had to do with allegations of genocide under the terms of the UN Convention on Genocide. This Convention defines genocide as follows: A. killing members of the group, B. causing serious bodily and mental harm to members of the group; C. deliberately inflicting on a group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part, D. imposing measures intended to prevent birth within a group, or E. transferring children of the group to another group. So it was also to investigate the patterns in residential school systems and other things: de-Indianizing land, privatizing Indian land and whether they constituted genocide. And finally the Canadian government. has imposed a settlement of $326 million because theres already been an admission of guilt to some extent in a British Columbia Supreme Court decision. We were also to investigate whether those monies had been paid to the victims, or the terms under which they would be paid, and whether there were other victims who should be covered under that settlement. So thats basically it. As of now, none of that money has been disbursed and we are supposed to investigate. There are some disputes between some of the nations where some dont want a blanket settlement. They want to fight it tribe by tribe, nation by nation, and the reason for that is because a blanket settlement were sorry, heres $356 million, now the guilt is over some people feel we need to get out the particulars of what went on, not just to point the fingers of blame, but also to bring individuals to justice that need to be brought to justice and also to point out a pattern. Listen, the word genocide came from a Polish jurist named Raphael Lemkin in 1944. It comes from genos which means race in Greek and cide or the killing of, which is Latin. The UN has subsequently differentiated ethnocide where a group is progressively destroyed, but there may not be an intention to destroy that group as a group. An example is warfare, like in Bosnia lets say, where one group is at war with another group and gets wiped out, but supposedly the intention is not to wipe out these people as a people. Thats called ethnocide. Genocide means that theres a conscious, deliberate intention, what they call in law mens rea an intention to destroy a people as a people. One of the reasons why some people are opposed to a blanket settlement is that it may gloss over or not allow us to get to exactly what is going on and whether there is genocide going on and not just ethnocide. I found it interesting: the Canadian Prime Minister Jean Cretien said It looks like the Court has attributed (hes talking about the BC Supreme Court) to the federal government some responsibility. If we had responsibility we have to meet our responsibilities." The Canadian government was summoned to be at this tribunal, but sent no observer. The Catholic Church was asked to be there, because a lot of the residential schools were being run by them (UC, Catholic, Methodists, Anglicans, and there was some mention of Mormons), but they sent no one. Observers from these churches were asked to be there also. Not only to look at what has happened but to make sure it doesnt happen again. They chose not to send any observers even though they knew this was an official UN tribunal. Another quote from Jerry Kelly of the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops: This is a major threat to every church in the country. The potential costs are exceedingly high. I dont really know whats going to happen. The number of cases have just grown and grown. So the churches are well aware that there are some serious allegations being made and theyre mounting, but they chose not to send representatives. DH: The situation is that the churches were subcontractors of the Canadian government to run schools and they were essentially subcontractors for genocide. JC: Well, I wouldnt necessarily use that term subcontractors but I guess that would be proper. Under Canadian law in the case of broken families its a matter of law that the children are put into residential schools. The residential schools are run by the churches. So that gets into the forced assimilation issue as opposed to choosing to be assimilated. Under international law if people choose to assimilate with another group, thats not a crime. But if people are forced to assimilate into another group, that comes under one of the particulars of genocide. We heard allegation after allegation of people whose parents put them in residential schools believing they were under a legal obligation to do so. We heard allegations that children were beaten for speaking their native language, being left handed, for practicing traditional rituals or practices. We heard testimony where children were forced off their traditional Indian diets and residential school diets designed to be cheaply provided, heavy on carbohydrates and fat, where you could feed a lot of people for very little. As a result a lot of them today are suffering diabetes and kidney failure and other kinds of diseases associated with diets they were pushed on to in the residential school system. We heard repeated allegations of sexual abuse, physical abuse, murder, intimidation when people reported murder, threats of retribution when reporting murder. We heard allegations of secret graveyards, of victims who were buried, graveyards of children the products of liaisons between a priest and children that were disposed of. DH: And these horrors were something in the distance past, right? Were talking about fairly recent events? JC: Oh yes, going back to the 30s all the way up to the present. The allegations we heard go right on up to the present. DH: And this is not just freelance abuse but part of a pattern amounting to genocide? JC: Yes. What we are looking for is whether there is a pattern. Lemkin, when he wrote his original book on genocide, said that genocide involves two phases: The first phase is the destruction of a national pattern of the oppressed group; the second phase is the imposition of a national pattern of the dominating group. So what we heard were allegations of the destruction of the national pattern of Indian peoples, meaning diet, religion, language, culture, family structure, belief systems, moral value systems all of it. Then we also heard that the residential schools were being used to de-Indianize, and impose the national pattern of the dominant group to Christianize them, to de-Indianize them. DH: Why were they doing these things? JC: There are various motives involved. One is economic. For example, one of the cases we heard that was typical was known as the Lot 363 case. This had to do with traditional native ancestral land on Flores Island which is off BC, of the Ahousaht people. This land was expropriated by the UC, sold in 1953 for about $2,500 to the grandson of a church missionary despite repeated protests of the Ahousaht elders, and that land was then sold to McMillian-Blodell for over $1 million in 1994 it was very rich in old-growth timber. So part of the motive had to do with de-Indianizing children as a way of breaking their connections with their tribes, their nations, but also breaking the connection of the nations with their ancestral lands, to privatize ancestral lands. The second motive we heard of course is the usual arrogance of some of the mainstream religions that, you know, We are the true church, Our way is the only way, These children are savages practicing a savage religion, They represent an affront to the mainstream culture, and so on. DH: Again, were talking about the present, not the 19th century? JC: Thats right. It goes on today. We heard allegations, for example, of just recently very very severe beatings by RCMP and others, and again it seemed that if youre Indian, you have no protection, no rights, its just open season. We heard allegations of public beatings within a context that probably people from other groups would not suffer the same intensity. We heard about not only priests and church officials being involved, but members of the RCMP, allegedly, members of the government. Narrator: We hear all about NAFTA, the economic borders between the US and Canada supposedly disappearing rapidly. You told me a case this afternoon of people who were prosecuted for crossing the border to trade wheat with other tribe members. JC: Yes. Among the Blackfoot people, there are four main tribes, the Akaina or Blood, the Northern Peigan, the Siksika which are Blackfoot, and the Southern Peigan or Blackfeet which are in Montana. There was a case of one person, Harvey Franks who brought wheat down across the border to sell to the Blackfeet tribe in Montana (keep in mind that these are all part of one natural people who existed there long before there was a Canada or a United States or indeed any kind of border.) He was put on trial in Alberta for violating the Wheat Export Control Act because in Canada all wheat is brokered through the Wheat Board. So his argument was that Blackfoot people are a whole people, that members of one tribe have every right to sell to fellow Blackfoot, and further that this interfering with commerce between tribes of one nation is effectively helping to promote the destruction of that whole nation. Im not sure where the case stands right now, my understanding is that its in abeyance right now as a result of protests against it. But this is an example of whereas NAFTA is supposed to break down borders for free trade, free commerce, heres someone who just from one tribe of a nation came to sell to his fellow tribal members and was put on trial for it. I suspect part of the reason is because of the sovereignty implications of it. In other words, because we have the Jay Treaty which the US has recognized but Canada doesnt which calls for free and unmolested travel on both sides of the border between indigenous people (so many of the nations are divided because of the border) and in order to keep one nation together and preserve whats left there has to be free exchange back and forth. This has been interfered with on both sides of the line. DH: The border exists at the pleasure of capital and the state. JC: Indeed. As to the tribunal, we took it very seriously, it was conducted under tribal law, everybody understands that allegations are not facts in and of themselves, they may lead to facts, but theyre not facts in and of themselves. I suspect personally that non-Indians got a much fairer hearing from Indians than Indians have ever received from non-Indians in their courts. DH: Were running short on time, but is one of these tribunals planned for the US? JC: Yes. Its still in the
works right now. This was the first tribunal of its kind to investigate not human rights
in China, in Tiennaman Square or whatever, but now were talking about genocide
inside our own borders. And the people who are doing this know how to use that term very
carefully. So whats being planned now is inside the borders of the US because the
Boarding School system, which is equivalent to the residential school system in Canada,
many of the same atrocities and abuses allegedly occurred in those schools, too. There are
so many Indian nations in the US who have made these kinds of allegations for years and
theyve never been investigated. So the next stop will be inside US borders to look
at the same kind of thing. Narrator: Has this tribunal been publicized well in Canada, do people know about it? JC: What happened was at the tribunal we had people who brought to us how they had allegedly been threatened inside the tribunal. We had false press releases sent out telling people to go to another place at another time so that press wouldnt show up. The government of Canada and members of the churches refused to show up even though it was a UN tribunal. Right now Im sitting on another phony press release saying that findings have already been made from this tribunal which is not the case. We also saw during the tribunal numerous examples of attempts to sabotage what was being done there. So yes, it was publicized but not as widely as you might think because there were some forces at work there trying to prevent it from being fully publicized. Nevertheless it did occur and it was generally conducted with a great deal of integrity although we did have some problems internally. DH: Any idea of who was doing these disruptions? JC: I can only speculate, but I suspect it was the people who were being examined, they would have the greatest motive to do so. DH: How would you compare the status of the Indian peoples in the US vs. those in Canada? JC: The fact that something like this could even go on in Canada is indicative of something. On a formal level, I believe that in terms of indigenous rights and so on, Canada is probably ahead of the US. On the de facto level, perhaps thats another question. But I think the Canadian is probably more advanced than our own government in the US in terms of being willing to consider the possibility that there were some serious crimes and wrongs that need to be addressed and prevented in the future. The settlement for $356 million, as much as that may be a blanket settlement and designed to not deal with the specifics that may be uncomfortable to deal with, is a heck of a lot farther than what weve seen here in the US. In capitalist law, if you wrong somebody, youve got to pay damages. Its the same thing here: some people have been horribly wronged and until were honest about ourselves and our own history were going to have a real tough time pointing to human rights violations in China, and Burma and other places, when theres genocide going on right inside the borders of the US and Canada. |
| BIA Apology 00 |
September 00: Indian
Affairs Head Makes "Apology" from AP report by Matt Kelly: WASHINGTON (AP) - The head of the federal Bureau of Indian Affairs apologized Friday for the agency's legacy of racism and inhumanity that included massacres, forced relocations of tribes and attempts to wipe out Indian languages and cultures. By accepting this legacy, we accept also the moral responsibility of putting things right,'' Kevin Gover, a Pawnee Indian, said in an emotional speech marking the agency's 175th anniversary. Gover said he was apologizing on behalf of the BIA, not the federal government as a whole. Still, he is the highest-ranking US official ever to make such a statement regarding the treatment of American Indians. The audience of about 300 tribal leaders, BIA employees and federal officials stood and cheered as a teary-eyed Gover finished the speech. I thought it was a very heroic and historic moment,' said Susan Masten, chairwoman of Californias Yurok tribe and president of the National Congress of American Indians. For us, there was a lot of emotion in that apology. Its important for us to begin to heal from what has been done since non-Indian contact. Lloyd Tortalita, the governor of New Mexicos Acoma Pueblo tribe, welcomed the apology but said, If we could get an apology from the whole government, that would be better. . . . Canadas government has formally apologized for abuses in government-run boarding schools for Indians but has rejected calls for a broader apology. Australian
Prime Minister John Howard also has rebuffed repeated calls for an apology to that
countrys Aboriginal population for similar abuses there. Gover recited a litany of
wrongs the BIA inflicted on Indians since its creation as the Indian Office of the War
Department. Estimates vary widely, but the agency is believed responsible for the deaths
of hundreds of thousands of Indians. This agency participated in the ethnic
cleansing that befell the Western tribes, Gover said. It must be acknowledged
that the deliberate spread of disease, the decimation of the mighty bison herds, the use
of the poison alcohol to destroy mind and body, and the cowardly killing of women and
children made for tragedy on a scale so ghastly that it cannot be dismissed as merely the
inevitable consequence of the clash of competing ways of life. Jim Craven: When I read
this obscene cover-up masquerading as an apology, I immediately thought of
Theresienstadt. That was the showcase concentration camp in Czechoslovakia that the Nazis
used for Swiss Red Cross Inspections. They would kill off half the inhabitants, rushing
them out to Auschwitz on blitz transfers, then paint the place up, put on
operas sung by the remaining children (only 100 of some 10,000 survived), and even issue
camp-specific currency in which the workers were being paid to
give the illusion of paid workers. Of course the usual Arbeit Macht Frei was
painted over the entrance; the Cremetorium was portrayed as a means to insure hygiene and
sanitary disposal of any unfortunate deaths. This is truly sick. It reminds me
of something my mother used to tell me as a child: There are more white trash [and their
apple minions] (wearing three-piece suits) on Wall Street and in Washington DC than in the
trailer parks of America. Gover has explicitly stipulated to every
single type of act mentioned in Article II of the UN Convention on Genocide as
constituting genocide while refusing to use that word; killing members of the group;
causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of a group; inflicting on a group
conditions of life calculated to bring about its destruction in whole or in part;
conducting measures to prevent births within the group; forcibly transferring children
from one group to another group. And all of this while Canada and the U.S. commit troops
to supposedly stop genocide in places like Bosnia and Kosovo and presume to
lecture countries all over the world about human rights. |